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There are news reports of cars going out of control due to a sticking throttle.
Couldn't a clomp on the brakes bring it to a stop, even with the throttle open--or is this a Myth. A job for Buster maybe? Some calculations on the situation: POWER REQUIRED FOR AUTOMOBILE ACCELERATION AND BRAKING ACCELERATION Given: 4000 pound vehicle Uniform acceleration 0 to 60 MPH (88 ft/sec) in 9 seconds Acceleration = 88 ft/sec/9 sec = 9.8 ft/sec/sec Gravity = 32 ft/sec/sec= 1 g So acceleration of car= 9.8/32= 0.3 g Force= mass x acceleration Pounds= slugs x ft/sec/sec 4000 pounds/ 32 ft/sec/sec = 125 slugs Force to accelerate car: Pounds = 125 slugs x 9.8 ft/sec/sec = 1225 pounds Work= change in kinetic energy W = ½ x mass x velocity^2 W= ½ x 125 slugs x 88 ft/sec^2 = 484,000 ft-pounds Since this work was done in 9 seconds, Power = 484000/ 9 = 53,778 ft-lb/sec Since 550 ft-lb/sec = 1 horsepower Power = 53778/550 = 97.8 HP BRAKING Given: 4000 pound vehicle braked from 60 MPH (88 ft/sec) to 0 in 140 ft. Work done in stopping vehicle= W = ½ x 125 slugs x 88 ft/sec^2 = 484,000 ft-lb (same as for acceleration) Average velocity = 44 ft/sec Distance = average velocity x time 140 = 44 x time Time = 140/44 = 3.18 sec Power = 484000/3.18 = 152,200 ft-lb/sec Power = 152000/550 ft-lb/sec/HP = 277 HP Power from brakes is much more than from engine BRAKING WITH THROTTLE OPEN Net HP for braking = 277 – 98 = 179 HP Then 179 HP x 550 ft-lb/sec/HP = 98,450 ft-lb/sec So to provide the required stop from 60 MPH (88 ft /sec) 484,000 / time = 98450 ft-lb/sec Time = 4.9 sec So at average velocity while braking of 44 ft/sec Vehicle would travel 44 ft/sec x 4.9 sec = 216 ft while stopping with full throttle---- quite long but still stopped. Looks like a challenge for Mythbusters. |
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Explorer |
Only one problem with your calculations:
Cars don't go out of control because of a sticking throttle, it's because people are stupid, and don't think about steady breaking or in worst case, cutting power to the engine! |
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Discoverer |
remember also, with the pious (not a typo) the brakes are failing, too.
not that thats a bad thing. the only apocalyptic horseman to wear a crash helmet. |
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Explorer |
Under certain situations, the effects of the brakes would be delayed as it switched from the energy recovery system to normal braking, which takes less than a second. Which is enough time for people to think about “no win no fee” lawyers and how much money they can make! |
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Discoverer |
i just meant that less hybrid car drivers (and less hybrid cars) is good for everyone.
the only apocalyptic horseman to wear a crash helmet. |
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Discoverer |
Do these cars not have ingition keys? On most cars, removal of the key stops the car. Even just turning it back a bit does the job. Knocking it out of gear helps as well. Then again, if anybody gets a car that can't be switched off and relies totally on software to keep them alive and doesn't have any way of de-powering itself, this is a good example of Darwinism in action.
If we do not attempt the impossible, we can never achieve the absurd. You will know the truth, and the truth will see you fret. |
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