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Originally posted by antiantiwhaler:

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I think this means "Watson wanted TV ad to make $$$."


No. It means he found a way to increase donations to SSCS by calling attention to the illegal Japanese whaling activiesin the Southern Whale Ocean Sanctuary and the Australian EEZ. He makes no money off the show. All SSCS funds come from donations.

He found a way to increase donations to SSCS, yes. The remaining bit is false, as you have been explained to earlier.

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So, leading the public to cough up some $ based on lies is called swindling.

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That was then, this is now.

So, they had no excuse at that time. Now, they have an invalid excuse.

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Originally posted by Ophidian:
Where does it talk about: enforcement, use of force, Authorize.

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Originally posted by antiantiwhaler:

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Nobody has "explained" anything to me.

I am afraid that that is not true, but in just in case, once more.

UN World Charter Charter for Nature does not give private parties a right to use violence. If you disagree, you want to cite an article in the charter that does it. If you cannot, but disagree, I don't know. It is your problem.

Wrong!. Paragraph 24 reads:

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Each person has a duty to act in accordance with the provisions of the present Charter; acting individually, in association with others or through participation in the political process, each person shall strive to ensure that the objectives and requirements of the present Charter are met.

Let me now add the definitions:

"Each person" - "Each" refers to every one of two or more considered individually or one by one. That's everbody on this planet. "Person" refers to a human being, whether man, woman, or child.

"has a duty" - duty refers something that one is expected or required to do by moral or legal obligation. Since no one is pursuing the legal part of the obligation, only the moral obligation is being pursued and only by the SSCS.

"to act" - is defined as anything done, being done, or to be done; deed; performance. Not standing around with a camera and a sign, but intervening in the criminal activity.

"individually" - one person. Also known as a private party

"in association with others" - a group of persons. To wit: Sea Shepherd Conservation Society. Another private party.

"or through participation in the political process" - enacting laws (AAT EEZ, Australia's EPBC Act), court cases (Australian Federal Court ruling ordering the Japanese to stop whaling in the AAT EEZ) which the Japanese have deliberately chosen to violate making them criminally liable for their commercial whaling.

"each person shall strive" - strive means to exert oneself vigorously; try hard. Not take pictures and hold up signs.

"to ensure" - defined as to secure or guarantee

"Objectives" - defined as something that one's efforts or actions are intended to attain or accomplish; purpose; goal; target: the objective of a military attack; the objective of a fund-raising drive. In this case obeying the moratorium on commercial whaling.

"requirement" - means that which is required; a thing demanded or obligatory. In other words, don't just stand there, do something to stop the whaling.

Read this next statement very slowly: Sometimes violence is required to stop a crime.

SSCS is authorized and required under the Charter to use whatever actions (prop fouling, butter bombs, cutting transfer lines, etc.) they had at their disposal to interfere with criminal activities of the Japanese whalers.

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Since it doesn't say what limits there are to "Duty to Act".....What about deadly force?

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evidence against the Japanese whaling fleet which they show to the world and that's what generates their funding.

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They have a valid cause.

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"Duty to act" is an authorization.

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Originally posted by antiantiwhaler:

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evidence against the Japanese whaling fleet which they show to the world and that's what generates their funding.

Evidence of what? That they are working legally?

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They have a valid cause.

Which is to make money.

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"Duty to act" is an authorization.

and where does it say anything about violence?

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Originally posted by nbrownfzi:
and where does it say they can't use violence to stop a criminal activity? They used violence to stop the Costa Rican poachers in Guatemala's EEZ. Costa Rica had no problem with it.

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Originally posted by Ueda Jiro:

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Originally posted by nbrownfzi:
and where does it say they can't use violence to stop a criminal activity? They used violence to stop the Costa Rican poachers in Guatemala's EEZ. Costa Rica had no problem with it.

I didn't know Costa Rica was in the habit of charging everyone they "had no problem with" with 7 counts of attempted murder.

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Originally posted by nbrownfzi:
That was the initial finding (no problem) on the part of the Costa Rican authorities. The mob controlled Costa Rican fishing industry bought and paid for a "prosecutor" and "judge" to re-file the charges. Since the people involved are corrupt, the "charges" are invalid.

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Originally posted by Ueda Jiro:

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Originally posted by nbrownfzi:
That was the initial finding (no problem) on the part of the Costa Rican authorities. The mob controlled Costa Rican fishing industry bought and paid for a "prosecutor" and "judge" to re-file the charges. Since the people involved are corrupt, the "charges" are invalid.

Ahh yes, the usual response"
"THEY'RE ALL CORRUPT AND CONSPIRING AGAINST US:
Yea, sure. Tell it to the judge. OH wait, he ran away.

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Originally posted by Ueda Jiro:
Ohh right, that's entirely different then. <<-- There's that idiot again...

And you know this how?