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Exactly! GO... as in to Jail, Do not pass Go, Do not collect $200.

I would love to see that whale in jail
 
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Exactly! GO... as in to Jail, Do not pass Go, Do not collect $200.

I would love to see that whale in jail


Has he ever been in jail before at any point in time?

Anyway he seems smart enough to stay out of jail. And I still can't stand seeing those whales killed.

Anyway, why are you calling him a whale? Because he is a bit overweight? I'm only 100 pounds myself but I would never refer to people who are overweight as whales.
 
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Has he ever been in jail before at any point in time?

Anyway he seems smart enough to stay out of jail. And I still can't stand seeing those whales killed.
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Yes he has done some time and has more to do in Norway where he is a fugitive. He will also not go to Canada because of an arrest warrant. Soon there won't be anywhere for him to go but prison.

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Anyway, why are you calling him a whale? Because he is a bit overweight? I'm only 100 pounds myself but I would never refer to people who are overweight as whales.
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No I don't care how many cheeseburgers he eats or if he decides to have liposuction. He's a criminal pirate. I say it because it's ironic. He wants to save the whales, but can he save himself from prison or worse?
 
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What does my country(Canada) have against him? Does it have to do with the seal hunt that happens here?
 
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Yes, I have specifics somewhere on it. I accidentally deleted a few thing. So might have to search for it. Unless someone else has the info. I'll check
 
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It might be this:
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1983: Paul Watson and “Sea Shepherd” vessel engineer Paul Pezwick, tried and convicted in a Quebec, Canada, court for “interfering in the annual seal hunt in the Gulf of St. Lawrence”. Trial followed arrest in March 1983 when “Sea Shepherd” vessel boarded by Canadian police. “Sea Shepherd” fortified including electric barbed wire around the deck’s edges. Seventeen crew arrested. Watson and three others flee across ice to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, but caught and arrested. Watson charged additionally with piloting a ship in a dangerous manner, intimidation of the sealers and being unlawfully within a half mile of the seal hunt – a violation of the Seal Protection Regulations. Watson sentenced to 15 months imprisonment.

1983: In retaliation for Watson’s arrest by Canadian police, animal rights extremists slash car tires and spray paint slogans on walls of buildings in the inner city of Quebec. “Fisheries Murder Seals” and “Set Paul Watson Free” slogans spray painted on the Department of Fisheries and Oceans offices in Keele Street. Animal Liberation Front delivers letter to the Quebec Star newspaper admitting causing several thousand dollars worth of damage to the Department’s Keele Street offices.


This is from Paul Watson history of violence
 
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At least Paul Watson stands for and tries to protect defenseless whales against losers!

I sent in a donation to help him get a bigger ship to take out all of the Jap's whaling fleet, hopefully he will put some money into torpedoes also, just sink them.
 
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take out all of the Jap's whaling fleet


You do realize that the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force is one of the most powerful naval forces in the world? That the Japanese Coast Guard is similarly well equipped and trained?

The scenario of a rag tag bunch of civilians using violence against a powerful sovereign state only ends one way.

In the end, all this direct action is nothing but nuisance behavior. Anything that actually stopped whaling or any similar legal activity (like sealing), results in Coast Guard action.

Norway's Coast Guard now fires on SSCS vessels and chases them away. The Canadians will now board and seize their ships. If the Japanese do likewise, the Sea Monkeys will have to find another issue for fund raising.
 
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Is this the arguement you people can make?

I'm not knocking you don't get me wrong, but come on...He's a criminal
 
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You cant just illegally board a ship, and I dont see SSCS going up there anyway, stick to where they are, and BE ARMED!
 
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You cant just illegally board a ship


Did you miss the episode where the Sea Monkeys did exactly that?

And then claimed they had been kidnapped?
 
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scene of "kidnapping"
Peter the Hammer Explains Kidnapping

view from Japanese vessel

They requested tempura (deep-fried food) after this, and had fish. While they are feasting on this, SS released a statement.

SS on the Two Hostages

When they returned, Watson was not on the deck to greet the "hostages."
No Watson

And, the hostages reported that they were abused.
 
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South Park is such a good show, just over did it a little in respect to Paul Watson, but they got the point across about the Japanese, and the senseless killing.

I feel sorry for the cows now!
 
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It might be this:
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1983: Paul Watson and “Sea Shepherd” vessel engineer Paul Pezwick, tried and convicted in a Quebec, Canada, court for “interfering in the annual seal hunt in the Gulf of St. Lawrence”. Trial followed arrest in March 1983 when “Sea Shepherd” vessel boarded by Canadian police. “Sea Shepherd” fortified including electric barbed wire around the deck’s edges. Seventeen crew arrested. Watson and three others flee across ice to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, but caught and arrested. Watson charged additionally with piloting a ship in a dangerous manner, intimidation of the sealers and being unlawfully within a half mile of the seal hunt – a violation of the Seal Protection Regulations. Watson sentenced to 15 months imprisonment.

1983: In retaliation for Watson’s arrest by Canadian police, animal rights extremists slash car tires and spray paint slogans on walls of buildings in the inner city of Quebec. “Fisheries Murder Seals” and “Set Paul Watson Free” slogans spray painted on the Department of Fisheries and Oceans offices in Keele Street. Animal Liberation Front delivers letter to the Quebec Star newspaper admitting causing several thousand dollars worth of damage to the Department’s Keele Street offices.


This is from Paul Watson history of violence


I googled the quote in your post. Only one hit. It's from another forum. Not a valid news source.


"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." - Mark Twain
 
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South Park is such a good show, just over did it a little in respect to Paul Watson, but they got the point across about the Japanese, and the senseless killing.

I feel sorry for the cows now!


Ophidian brought that up in another section. It was hilarious!! Somebody at ecorazzi wrote it was sure to offend just about everybody. I think it did.

P.S. Don't forget the poor chickens!


"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." - Mark Twain
 
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Originally posted by LeaveWhalesAlone:

Has he ever been in jail before at any point in time?


He has been arrested more than once. No convictions though.

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Anyway he seems smart enough to stay out of jail.


He was arrested recently only the warrant had expired and they had to release him.

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And I still can't stand seeing those whales killed.


I'm with you on that one.


"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." - Mark Twain
 
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I didn't know the Japanese had film of this as well. I like how the Japanese edited out the part where they tried to throw one of the SS crew overboard.

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They requested tempura (deep-fried food) after this, and had fish. While they are feasting on this, SS released a statement.

SS on the Two Hostages


I watched the episode again. They never requested tempura. They ate what was provided. Also, I've never heard of a kidnap victim "feasting" while in captivity.

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When they returned, Watson was not on the deck to greet the "hostages."


He was on the bridge.
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He was on the bridge.

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And, the hostages reported that they were abused.


Wrong. From the Sea Shepherd site:

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Both men were happy to be reunited with their shipmates and eager to return to chasing the Japanese whaling fleet in the Southern Oceans. Both men reported that although they were roughed up when they first boarded the whaling ship, that they were treated well during their time onboard. The only injury was a bruised wrist suffered by Giles Lane.

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take out all of the Jap's whaling fleet


You do realize that the Japanese Maritime Self Defense Force is one of the most powerful naval forces in the world? That the Japanese Coast Guard is similarly well equipped and trained?

The scenario of a rag tag bunch of civilians using violence against a powerful sovereign state only ends one way.

In the end, all this direct action is nothing but nuisance behavior. Anything that actually stopped whaling or any similar legal activity (like sealing), results in Coast Guard action.

Norway's Coast Guard now fires on SSCS vessels and chases them away. The Canadians will now board and seize their ships. If the Japanese do likewise, the Sea Monkeys will have to find another issue for fund raising.


Still flogging that dead horse agni? It must give you tons of pleasure to crow about the "prowess" JMSDF.

They happen to be restricted by their national constitution from aggressive action outside Japanese territorial waters. The "SD" stands for "Self Defense" - defense of the Japanese Islands and territory none of which is in Antarctica.


"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." - Mark Twain
 
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As Article 9 of the Constitution of Japan prohibits Japan from using military force except in self-defense. If law abiding Japanese workers are being attacked in international waters then sending the JMSDF down with them would be considerd self defence or a peace keeping mission which they are also allowed to do, hence why Japanese troops were deployed to Iraq.
 
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As Article 9 of the Constitution of Japan prohibits Japan from using military force except in self-defense. If law abiding Japanese workers are being attacked in international waters then sending the JMSDF down with them would be considerd self defence or a peace keeping mission which they are also allowed to do, hence why Japanese troops were deployed to Iraq.


Read the entire article especially the bold part:

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ARTICLE 9. (1) Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes. (2) To accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea, and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.


Poaching in Australian waters qualifies as an international dispute not a peacekeeping mission. JSDF are not allowed to act.

Japanese forces can be (and have been) deployed outside of Japan only when a law is passed and the deployment is for a limited time and peaceful purposes only. Japan deployed forces to Iraq for humanitarian purposes only and there were protests in Japan over that.


"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." - Mark Twain
 
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